. >> that you get a tax credit for hiring someone who has been unemployment for a certain time. >> these folks are really in trouble and the good unemployment news doesn't really affect the long-term -- >> but we should do both. we should help the folks that are still in trouble. kevin is right, there's an element that's there because of the ui program. >> and people that stay unemployed because they can get enough from unemployment. >> there's a lot of academic work and research, but my estimates a percentage is due to ui benefits. kevin is right, we have to work on long term structural unemployment -- >> but i want to say i disagree that we should do both in the following sense. that what we should do, if you want to give more money to the people who are currently unemployed, just give them the money. give them a lump sum of cash. don't take them stay unemployed for another three months. >> mark zandi, annie lowry, kevin hasset, thank you for coming by. >>> when we return, he called nelson mandela one of the greatest leaders of our lifetime and incurred the wrath of his facebook friend